Randy Horton And The Pip Squeak Police

Home Affairs Minister Randy Horton will have further damaged the reputation of Bermuda's government if the account of his actions on Sunday's American Airlines flight turns out to be accurate.

Mr. Horton did several things that would be unacceptable behaviour for anyone, never mind a prominent member of the government. He tried to go to the bathroom while the plane was coming in to land and the fasten seatbelts sign was presumably on, potentially putting the safety of the other passengers at risk. When told to sit down, he engaged in an angry altercation with the steward, during which he allegedly asked "Do you know who I am?" and suggested that the steward's actions were racially motivated.

This was not merely a sharp exchange of views: the cabin crew considered the incident so serious that they reported it to the police. You would think that being escorted to the airport's police station for questioning would have humbled Mr. Horton. Apparently not. According to "police sources", Mr. Horton stood up before the interview was finished, said that he did not have time to deal with "you pip squeaks" and left. I wonder how the airline feels about that.

This is the kind of behaviour I expect from a bad-boy rock star after one too many in-flight drinks, not a member of Bermuda's Cabinet. I'm embarrassed and humiliated to think that I actually live in a place where this sort of thing seems to be acceptable, and where some will invoke race to excuse it.

But it's Mr. Horton's alleged behaviour in the police station that troubles me most. As Minister of Home Affairs it's inexcusable for him to show any disrespect towards the police, particularly at a time when many Bermudians are concerned about crime and the seeming inability of the police to combat it. It undermines their ability to do their job and sets a bad example to the rest of Bermuda. In any other country it would probably lead to calls for his resignation.

In a statement last night, Mr. Horton suggested that "persons who choose to serve the public must exercise professionalism and honesty above all whenever they come into contact with the public". The irony was clearly lost on him.

Comments

[Tiger Bay on 26.04.05 at 13:09]

Another terrible example set by Randy Horton on AA, arguing when he was told to sit down during the final approach. I have seen people arrested by the Transportation Security Agency in the US for similar actions. This undermines Bermuda's reputation for security.

[Id Eeyo Ci on 26.04.05 at 13:09]

Bet that flight steward was a racist royalist. If we were independent, Randy wouldn't have to put up with that crap. They would know who he was. He gets so much respect outside of Bermuda. I hope the US put a watch order on him.

[jake on 26.04.05 at 13:10]

Anyone who knows Randy knows that he would not intentionally cause a disruption on a flight. What I am familiar with are the flight attendents who speak in a disrespectful manner to adults - many of whom may be doing normal things - like trying to use the bathroom, at a less than appropriate time. A simple, "Sir, I am sorry but you will have to sit down" works much better than an order barked at a grown man. It is of course easy for Tiger to think that this is about Randy wanting better than average treatment. That is probably because he does not know the life experiences that many black men carry, of being treated like they are children, and spoken to as if they deserve nothing in the way of respect. He complied. He sat down. I am confident however that the Tigers of this list will add it to the many other instances of people refusing to be treated like children: people who choose to speak out. Rosa Parks, your struggle lives on.

[ruby tuesday on 26.04.05 at 13:11]

you tell 'im bro.

[Tiger Bay on 26.04.05 at 13:12]

Rules is rules. Even if you are Randy Horton.

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 13:12]

Jake, If you can see something racist in being told politely or impolitely to sit the F... down, you are even more of a victim than I thought. Law abiding citizens do what they are told, even if they are spoke to like children! Complain later!

[jake on 26.04.05 at 13:13]

I did not say it was racist. That would be a comment on the instruction giver. I said that people subjected to that kind of treatment for a lifetime may be less receptive to it. And for the record - he did sit down after telling the attendant what he thought of the treatment. As for me being a victim because I see where Randy's frustrations are - I have long doubted your ability to connect with reality, so your judgment really means very little - at the best of times. And fair is fair - even if you are Randy Horton.

[Tiger Bay on 26.04.05 at 13:15]

An airline employee should not be rude to any passenger ... even if they are not Randy Horton. However, talking back doesn't do shit during a landing approach, except possibly get you air marshall on your ass.

[loki on 26.04.05 at 13:16]

Sorry, but when stewards are trying to ensure the safety of passengers, especially when the plane is on final approach and the seatbelt sign has been switched on, I want them to bark orders first and be polite once the plane has landed. There's a damn good reason why the seatbelt sign is put on for takeoff and final approach: it's the most potentially dangerous part of any flight and almost all aircraft accidents occur at these times. The seatbelt sign was on. He knew that he was supposed to sit down, but he ignored that. Personally, I would never even DREAM of disobeying a direct order from any member of an airline cabin crew or the flight deck. A person who ignores a seatbelt sign not only jeopardizes his own safety, but also that of his fellow passengers. Any unexpected turbulence or, God forbid, downdraft, and a human being becomes a very heavy, very dangerous missile in the cabin. Bottom line: obey the captain's orders (of which turning on the seatbelt sign is one), obey the orders of the cabin staff and do what you're told. When passenger safety is at issue, you give orders, not friendly requests. He was wrong.

[Terry on 26.04.05 at 13:17]

This has nothing to do with Race. It is a matter of being in a place and time that you have no control over. If the plane was in trouble and the crew needed to get things under control as they are taught, not a soul would even think of back talking. I have been told to sit down by whites, chinese, blacks, and my peers. If the Premier told him to sit down, would he? Randy has flown 100 times to the Island and he knows when you r ears pop and you see water and the reefs it's time to unload. Another chapter in the ones that wanted to be there, now they are there and still scream about race.

It took him Forty years to make his hat trick, and he can't even wear the Hat. This is a result of the late 60's-70's. They asked for it, got it, you got your Toyota.

Terry.

Ps. I still don't think anyone knows where or why I am commenting on this. Visit the PAST.......

[ace on 26.04.05 at 13:18]

Agreed loki.

You know what I HATE? I hate it when people with cell phones keep talking on the damn things even after being told that it could distrupt navigation frequencies prior to take-off. If I see one I immediatley call for an attendant and point out the offender.

What are these people THINKING?

[Terry on 26.04.05 at 13:18]

Jake, there is a total differance betwen Discrimination and complying with everyday rules, regulations. Seems you have a mentor, I suggest you loose your chip as well well as many others of both Races.

Terry.

[mat on 26.04.05 at 13:19]

jake,

sounds to me as if you are defending someone's actions due to a chip they may be carrying on their shoulders. truth of the matter is i don't know what it is like to be a black man and be spoken down to. but i do know what its like to be on american based public transportation after 9-11. listen to what the flight attendant says, whether it be in a disrespectful tone of voice or not. thats just common sense and has nothing to do with any racial psychology you got going on. plain and simple. they speak, you listen...unless they are pipsqueaks and you are an important minister of an island of 60,000 people....

baaaaaaaaa, whatever.

[Martin on 26.04.05 at 13:19]

Yet another example of arrogance on behalf of the PLP.

"Do you know who I am?"....sadly the answer is "yes"!

[ruby tuesday on 26.04.05 at 13:20]

He also asked the steward "Do you know who I am?" Maybe we can blame his crass stupidity on early Alzheimers. He should carry a little not around his neck with his name, address and essential medication requirements on it.

[jake on 26.04.05 at 13:34]

Right. I have a chip. We should all be thankful that we are out of chains.

I just happen to believe that he is not as unreasonable as he is being portrayed. I also happen to know that fligth attendents pre and post 9/11 are not infallible.

One thing I like is when you guys point out that he is a Minister of a small country. Should we all take the shit of the world because of that? From some glorified waiter on a glorified bus?

As they say in (little small) Bermuda: respect is due to a dog. The attendent was out of order and your responses to him and me are typical.

[Smiths on 26.04.05 at 13:36]

"Suggested that the stewards behaviour was racially motivated".

Ah yes, why didn't I think of that....whites can go to the bathroom, blacks cannot.

[Andrew on 26.04.05 at 13:43]

Jake, I'm sorry, but I can't fault the flight attendant on this one.

Perhaps she was rude or impatient, but as a PLP Minister, Mr. Horton should be well aware of aircraft regulation. When the plane is landing or taking off, one stays in one's seat. One does not make a scene by invoking political position or insinuating ulterior motives.

His race doesn't excuse it, his office doesn't justify it.

[The Limey on 26.04.05 at 13:52]

jake - So you believe that the steward was rude, that he over-reacted, and that Mr. Horton's response was an acceptable response.

But what do you make of Mr. Horton's alleged behaviour in the police station afterwards? Was that acceptable too?

[mat on 26.04.05 at 13:54]

jake, you are talking about a chip on the shoulders in your previous posts -- can you see that?

in case you can't, here's a reminder:

"It is of course easy for Tiger to think that this is about Randy wanting better than average treatment. That is probably because he does not know the life experiences that many black men carry, of being treated like they are children, and spoken to as if they deserve nothing in the way of respect."

I didn't say anything about you having a chip...but you defended Randy Horton's alleged reactions using this anecdote.

No one said anyone was infalliable here, just that there are basic rules that you follow on a plane, regardless of who you are. Its common sense.

Don't throw out ridiculus statements like "respect is due a dog" and think they mean anything. they don't. the only thing typical here is your inability to see the basic problems in this situation without throwing up the race card and crying about Rosa Parks.

[The Limey on 26.04.05 at 14:02]

jake

As they say in (little small) Bermuda: respect is due to a dog.

Bollocks.

Respect is due only to those who earn it, and that includes political leaders. Demanding unconditional respect is a sign of insecurity and immaturity.

If Mr. Horton had quietly returned to his seat the first time he had been told to sit down, that would have earned him some respect. If he had patiently gone through the process in the police station, he would have been respected for that too.

Do you respect a petulant child? I think not.

[Tiger Bay on 26.04.05 at 14:35]

"We should all be thankful that we are out of chains."

You do yourself discredit with petulant responses like that Jake. You know the man was outtaline, and given the cautious nature of his followup it sounds like Handyrandy does too.

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 14:39]

Going in to Philadelphia last week the "white" lady in front of me waqs asked by a curt "white" security officer to take off her shoes at the metal detector. The pasenger said its OK I wear these shoes regularly and they don't set alarm off. She walked through with shoes on and it didn't go off!
But the security officer still told her to get out of line and be screened thoroughly by another officer, just because she wouldn't take her shoes off!
Was this fair? From where I stood it wasn't but what the heck, the passenger took it in her stride, mumbled under her breath and kept going.

No racism involved Jake!

[loki on 26.04.05 at 14:45]

Ships,

I think you may have misunderstood what was going on there. Shoes don't set off the metal detector - that's not why they tell you to take them off. The reason they do is so they can put the shoes through the scanner to ensure that they don't have plastic explosives stashed in them. For obvious reasons, it's standard procedure that anyone who raises an objection to the screening is screened more thoroughly. Also, it's possible that her boarding pass had been marked for a randomn screening (as happened to my wife last week at JFK).

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 15:03]

I beg to differ Loki, but I know what your saying. It is standard procedure.
There are metal strips in many shoes now, in the sole, that's why they ask you to take your shoes off. Sneakers are fine.
This lady was pointed out to the second officer by the first officer who asked her to take her shoes off, then commented behind the lady's back "just because I look young and innocent they won't listen to me!"

[jake on 26.04.05 at 15:11]

I think Randy Horton was surprised by the rudeness. Responded in kind, and then caught himself, and took his seat. Does that amount to in flight terrorism? Certainly not.

Does it warrant police intervention? No.

And for the record, no one would expect a senior minister in the UK to be interviewed by PC's in the Airport. He is ostensibly their boss, and his role warranted the intervention of a senior officer. That has been the case for many years. PC's cannot even stop a senior officer who appears to be driving drunk as was demonstrated in the Esdaille case years ago.

What I tried to show you was that from his persepctive it was WAY over the top to be spoken to in that way. Thinking this makes me the carrier of a racial chip for you. THat is because you are white, and that is the new legitimised battle cry anytime the word race is used. Chip on shoulder and race card. It is because you are defensive of any white person. In contrast, I never attributed racial motives to the person telling him to sit down. I said they were rude. I pointed out that he is probably more sensitive than those here.

You guys miss the point everytime in your rush to WHITE WASH every scenario. It is pathetic.

And no. I think every person on earth is due respect. By simple virtue of being a person they are due this. But even if this were not the case, Randy has earned his. He has done more for and in his country than you have Phil. So should I conclude that because of that you are not due the level of respect he is?

[Smiths on 26.04.05 at 15:12]

Presumably, Horton's reference to the stewards actions being racially motivated, is his way of saying to the party faithful, "I did no wrong".

Well, that's novel. Shit politics - but novel nonetheless.

Are we reaching the stage where we can say or do nothing on this Island, in case it is racially motivated?

What a sad day for humanity.

With a bit of luck, charges will be laid against Horton in the US. That will tickle old Alex...he hates the Brits and then finds the US don't like him either!!

[Tiger Bay on 26.04.05 at 15:15]

"no one would expect a senior minister in the UK to be interviewed by PC's in the Airport."

A UK minister who acted this way would be ridiculed and hounded from office.

[loki on 26.04.05 at 15:21]

Aha, Ships. Google is our friend. Turns out we're both right. It seems that at airports in the US, the TSA/airport suggest that you remove your shoes and put them through the scanner because some shoes have metal in them and will set off the metal detector. However, they also ramdomly select passengers and order them to remove their shoes to be put through the scanner. This is to screen the shoes for plastic explosives, and they started doing this after Richard Reid tried to bring down a plane by concealing plastic explosives in his shoes. So, there you are. We're both right, it seems.

[Terry on 26.04.05 at 15:22]

Mr. Horton, Good Morning.
Good Morning Your Woship:
Mr. Horton, on the charge of parking your GP vehicle Reg. Number 007, on a Pedestrian Crosswalk and leaving it unattended, how do you plead.
NOT Guilty.
Mr.Warner:- Do you have an explanation?
Horton:- I saw all these other cars parked on it, and all the drivers were White, so I thought it was OK.
Warner:- Yes, but all the Ministers that drive those GP cars are Black.
Horton:- So what are you saying, I got this ticket because I am Black?. Don't be playing no race card with me. Do you know who I am?
Warner:- Mr. Horton, please sit down.
Horton:- You can't make me sit down and take a seat. I have to go pee.....
Warner:-This is my Court and I do things according to the Law.
Horton:- Well, I will have to get the Bro's and Sisters to send you back to the Indies.
Warner:- Go for it, I need a vacacation from this nonsense.
Horton:- Can I just have a word in your ear?
Warner:- When the seat belt sign goes off, and I SAY YOU CAN.

Horton:- Thanks but I need a lawyer right now.
Warner:- I can see how you LANDED here. It's now a matter of LANDING FEES.......

Warner:- I will decide on a date to hear your not guilty plea.

Horton:- Let me set the date so I can have a window seat, off the isle.

Next Week:-

Horton falls overboard trying to jump onto dock in Hamilton as deckhands are trying to secure ferry in 12foot swells.

Terry..

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 15:30]

Chip on shoulder and race card. It is because you are defensive of any white person.
Echo! Echo!
Where is the white person in this. Oh the steward was white! Only Jake has assumed this, and Randy being black is sensitive to childish remarks made to him. According to Jake.
So the white steward was wrong and we are protecting him! He couldn't be right because he is white and you know Randy! How racial can you get!
Jake all this is in your mind only.
Noone else mentioned a white person being involved. What if the steward was black.
Where do we get your remarks to suggest racism? The following is your race card noone elses:
"That is probably because he does not know the life experiences that many black men carry, of being treated like they are children, and spoken to as if they deserve nothing in the way of respect."
The reference to Rosa Parks was another race card.
By the way i thought Alex said the Governor was in charge of police!

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 15:33]

Sorry Randy brought up race card! I was giving him too much credit.

[Onion on 26.04.05 at 15:43]

Limey,

First of all let me say that you seem to preface your initial comments by saying "if this [all] proves to be accurate..." Being that we don't know, unless all of us were on the plane that day, shouldn't we all reserve judgment?? You yourself said admit this was an "alleged" incident.

I think some of you really belong on "Bermuda Forum for Free Speech" site. It always makes me laugh to see so many of you just LEAP out of your seats, salivating to get stuff off your chest when it comes to topics suh as this. All of you have made your decision on what went on - inluding you Limey - without even being there. Limey, if you're embarrassed about being in a country where a minister could "allegedly" act in such a way then go back to Limey Land.

What is funny is that none of you have commented on Mr. Hortons interview on Hot 107.5 this morning where he gave his version of events which certainly contrast sharply with what was reported in RG. Proper investigative journalism, which does not exist in Bermuda, would've sought the "other side of the story".

I personally have no clue if Mr. Horton was rude but I would like to hear both side. As I read the comments above I have to wonder who exactly has a chip on their shoulder. Sounds like some of you need some tums.

[mat on 26.04.05 at 15:48]

Jake,

Your arguments are elementary. They are based on a reality that only exists in your own mind. Its sad. You can't answer anyone's questions above but you can point the finger at limey and bring up examples from the past. Great, you are a legend in your own mind...whatever. It really doesn't matter. Funny thing is, the more your avoid the issues here, the more ridiculous you look. You are way out on a limb right now jake, climb back in and make some sense.

[Onion on 26.04.05 at 15:49]

I also find it hilarious that all of you are such do-gooders when it comes to observing rules in the sky. How many of you can put your hand on your heart and say you NEVER went to the bathroom during a descent, especially when your bladder was goona explode?

Limey, you need to start a new website and call it limey-back-in England-where-Ministers-nere-do-anything-wrong.com.

That'll go down well.

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 15:58]

First Limey reported what was in the paper and probably does have time to listen to Hot Hot Hot radio.
Secondly nearly all comments stem from Jake's comments about black men being treated like children etc. etc.. His was the second comment. By the way I didn't even notice that Randy supposedly used race card.
Also, You had to throw the usual piss off home line in there didn't you!
Onion, I live here because I want to live here and I will complain and comment on anything I like or dislike so piss off yourself.
George Bush is not above my ridicule so I am damn sure Randy isn't!

[Yes-I on 26.04.05 at 16:07]

The flight attendant should not be faulted.

Flight instructions are neither polically nor racially motivated. Flight instructions are common sense basic rules for passenger safety.

Members of Government should be well versed in travelling to and from the rock on official business.

When Members of Goverment say/act/represent themselves and Bermuda in a negative or offensive capacity, ever effort should be exhausted by that Member to apologize and or rectify that situation. True leaders are responsible for their actions. Inclusive of the negative.

How did Rosa Parks come into this situation?

[fan on 26.04.05 at 16:15]

onion what are you talking about. the gazette DID talk to randy horton, his comments are right there. radio was pretty much reading them this morning. did you forget to actually read the entire story? that makes you guilty of exactly what you're accusing the gazette of ...

[mat on 26.04.05 at 16:15]

onion,

the truth always lies somewhere in the middle. but logically speaking, do you think that AA would go to the police without some kind of reason? doubtful. read the posts above again. the basic issue is this:
there are certain ways to behave on public transportation, especially planes originating in the US. When a flight attendent tells you to sit down, you do it. No matter who you are. Limey brings up some good points about Randy Horton supposedly calling the police pipsqueaks and the effect this disrespect has on public opinion. Its a good point Onion, although it might be based on an event that never occurred.
Anyways, I don't think anyone is salivating over this behaviour or making posts deemed suitable for Bermuda Frickin Free Speech Forum -- but situations like this one on the plane don't just materialize out of thin air. When you are a public figure, you need to lead by example...and when you don't, its quite normal for people to want to get to the bottom of it....

[big bad wolf on 26.04.05 at 16:18]

Randy has a bad temper....He has always generally kept a clean sheet in public life. The key role of flight attendants is safety,Randy may of not liked the manner that he was told to sit down....but the flight staff are in charge of the plane's main cabin. End of story! If Randy did not like how he was treated he can always lodge an official complaint against the airline. When ever Randy loses his temper it is usually because of pressure of the moment. He is at heart a good person but like most of us can snap when people come on in a hostile manner.I have at times come across flight attendants that go nitro over chairs not being completely up right...In most cases it is a simple over sight but the flight attendants use the infraction as a chance to blow off steam.

[mat on 26.04.05 at 16:19]

another elementary argument completely missing the point:

I also find it hilarious that all of you are such do-gooders when it comes to observing rules in the sky. How many of you can put your hand on your heart and say you NEVER went to the bathroom during a descent, especially when your bladder was goona explode?

Limey, you need to start a new website and call it limey-back-in England-where-Ministers-nere-do-anything-wrong.com.

Answer the questions and deal with the issues...or is that possible Onion?

That'll go down well.

[JJ on 26.04.05 at 16:27]

I think the key issue here is that, regardless of Randy's side of the story, the flight attendant thought this incident was so serious that they had to report it to the police. Surely if, as he says, it was "blown out of proportion" by the media, why did the attendant report it? there are loads of incidents that go on before, during and after a flight has taken off but most don't get reported to the police. This was obviously a serious breach of the rules and probably a bit of "air rage". Mr.Horton should have shown some class, bit his tongue and, if he felt wronged, then file a complaint with AA.
That would have been the dignified thing to do. I agree with Limey that his alleged behavior with the police is extremely disturbing considering his position.

[Yes-I on 26.04.05 at 16:28]

Mat

What is the point? Follow directions.

Either party could have dramatized the situation.
Rumor control.

Besides, apres the weekend, no one will remember which Minister did what.

[jake on 26.04.05 at 17:09]

Who is out on a limb mat? Me?

Because I do not agree with the sentiments here?
Good. I don't want to be associated with your comments.

And I welcome your comment that my contribution is elementary. I would hope that with so many reactionaries on this site, I would be able to communicate at your level.

I think the flight attendant (to answer the allegation above mat, do try to follow along) reported the incident to the Police in the same vindictive spirit that the original orders were barked.

Flight attendent does not make your right, nor a god. If they had handled the matter in a sensible way none of this would have transpired.

But I know, none of you - not one - would stand up for anything where someone from the PLP is concerned.

You are cowards in that respect. Cowardice at its "pack mentality" best.

[Pitts Bay on 26.04.05 at 17:13]

Yes-I

That is one of the problems we have in Bermuda - everything gets swept under the carpet within a week and everyone in Bermuda forgets!

The problem is that many people outside Bermuda (and particulary in the US) do not have such short memories. If the behaviour was as bad as the RG reported (and I doubt if we will ever have the true story), then this will reflect badly on Bermuda with (a) any of the business people who were in first class with Randy; and (b) the next time the Bermuda government (Ewart Brown) has to negotiate with AA.

Whatever the true circumstances, Bermuda is going to get the short end of the stick.

[Pitts Bay on 26.04.05 at 17:18]

Jake

I take it that you believe Randy's statement of what happened entirely and take no stock in the report of the steward.

Is that not exactly the same thing you object to in the comments above?

[mat on 26.04.05 at 17:40]

jake,
point, blame and make all the excuses you want. throw the race card around, call in rosa parks, blame the flight attendant, the media, whatever....call me a coward -- it doesn't matter...you still can't get your head around the issue here and its making me smile.

[The Limey on 26.04.05 at 17:42]

Onion,

Limey, if you're embarrassed about being in a country where a minister could "allegedly" act in such a way then go back to Limey Land

Ah, the cutting edge of debate. I love it.

I also find it hilarious that all of you are such do-gooders when it comes to observing rules in the sky. How many of you can put your hand on your heart and say you NEVER went to the bathroom during a descent, especially when your bladder was goona explode?

(places hand on heart) I have NEVER gone to the bathroom during a descent, or even tried to move around the cabin while the fasten seatbelts light is on. And if one day I do decide to try it on, and get caught by the steward, I'd admit it was a fair cop and return to my seat.

What is funny is that none of you have commented on Mr. Hortons interview on Hot 107.5 this morning

Hardly surprising. Most of us are at work without access to a radio. If my opinion changes after listening to the news tonight I'll let you know.

Limey, you need to start a new website and call it limey-back-in-England-where-Ministers-nere-do-anything-wrong.com.

As I and many others have pointed out numerous times on numerous threads, Ministers in the UK frequently do stuff that's immoral or even downright illegal. The difference is that there they generally lose their jobs because of it.

[shipstones on 26.04.05 at 17:48]

"Flight attendent does not make your right, nor a god. If they had handled the matter in a sensible way none of this would have transpired."

Jake what is your source HOT Hot Hot radio or Randy himself?

But I know, none of you - not one - would stand up for anything where someone from the PLP is concerned.

Victim response! I would stand up for Paula Cox and her comments to the media, also Alex Scotts at RIMS.

You are cowards in that respect. Cowardice at its "pack mentality" best.

WhoaW! where do you get this hostility Jake! Nobody agrees with you! So you call it "Pack Mentality". Oh I forgot, we are all white and therefore it must be so!

If you are right I am sure the steward will lose his job and all the passengers sitting near Randy will back him up. Unless of course they are white!

Do you think the police that he dissed are white also? This is one terrible conspiracy!

Respect!

[jake on 26.04.05 at 17:51]

Ignorance is bliss, mat. Smile on.