Girls gone wild

Some people seem to have been upset by a video showing several young women exposing themselves while dancing in a local nightclub.

The most shocking close-up scenes – lasting no more than five minutes – include a woman in crotchless tights pleasuring herself and a woman gyrating towards the floor as the camera zooms in under her skirt.

However, there has been no suggestion that these women were being exploited. According to the Royal Gazette they were “clearly aware” that they were being filmed. One may have even won a $300 cash prize from one of the promoters of the event. So even if you disapprove of the women's behaviour, if it was all between consenting adults what's the problem?

That hasn’t stopped Wayne Perinchief, Minister of Drug Control, from expressing his hope that more undercover police will be sent into clubs and bars to combat “loose conduct” such as this. Given the difficulty that the police must have in conducting undercover operations in a place the size of Bermuda, I can’t help but think that their efforts would be better directed elsewhere.

Comments

[timmy on 14.02.06 at 03:17]

cool, i am going to visit bermuda soon... would you guys recommend Club Malabar? sounds like a wild party scene.

also, I am a white guy... is this a black club, mixed crowd, or white?

[Shark on 14.02.06 at 07:07]

Alcohol + music + girls = trouble :)

[Martin on 14.02.06 at 07:31]

Given what Renee said recently about "how the boys behave" in Parliament, I am surprised the PLP are responding to this.

Guess it's yet another case of playing to the church gallery.

[Zoom on 14.02.06 at 08:46]

This is yet another symptom of the police abandoning law enforcement. Club Malabar is now directly connected to several murders, stabbings, and other antisocial behavior. It's in the wild wild west where the police are never seen.

[ace on 14.02.06 at 08:47]

The owner of the Club said the video made him "sick to his stomach". I find that hard to believe, but maybe he doesn't have an internet connection. It would take me about 2 seconds to find something that would REALLY make him sick.

[Zoom on 14.02.06 at 08:58]

I think Wayne Perinchief is commenting on the large number of guys who, as the Gazette coyly put it, are "rolling cigarettes" in the background. Special cigarettes.

[ace on 14.02.06 at 12:09]

I thought Wayne said he knew where all the drugs are and that he was going to do something about them. What's all this about "hopeing"....isn't he the drug Tzar?

[sandgrownan on 14.02.06 at 12:24]

The righteous indignation from the guardians of our moral values is insane. Why is this even a news event?

[jake on 14.02.06 at 13:10]

It's a shame when you shake your
"Money May-kah" and only get 15 cents.

And a refund request.

Ouch.

[Guilden M. Gilbert, Jr. on 14.02.06 at 13:42]

Are there not more serious crimes occurring than adult females consenting to strip for money? Shouldn't the police be more concerned with these other more serious crimes rather than tying up manpower with these matters?

[blovator on 14.02.06 at 13:48]

Agreed Guilden. Girls having some fun. Whatever. This is as bad as Cheney shooting some guy. Its just not that important.

[SmokingGun on 14.02.06 at 14:54]

What I don't get is why these girls would want to show off what's down below in the first place. It's one thing to be drunk and feeling a little riske by popping your sisters out but to trotting around with your pants around your ankles is a little beyond bizarre. Even down in N'Orleans that stuff don't fly.....

[Uncle Elvis on 14.02.06 at 15:03]

Lord knows I don't want to bring this debate up again, but does anyone else find the bar-owner's story in the paper today ringing a little false?

If the stuff that happened went on for as long as it did, either he or his security staff knew about it, or none of them were paying attention, which is a little lax, no?

Then the stuff about, "Oh, I can't wait until the smoking ban, so no one can roll cigarettes in my club" stuff.
If you are so against smoking in your club and are "forward to April when smoking will be banned in enclosed public places, including nightclubs...", why not impose a ban yourself? Other people have done it, why can't you?

It all just doesn't add up to me.

Anyway, I certainly hope they catch as much heat as the Oasis crew did a few years ago.

[ace on 14.02.06 at 15:34]

"Lord knows I don't want to bring this debate up again, but does anyone else find the bar-owner's story in the paper today ringing a little false?"

Absofreakinglutely. His story was akin to the look a child has when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

[Kristen Sousa on 14.02.06 at 15:52]

Speaking of girls behaving badly, anyone checked the result of a query for bermuda on video.google.com ?

(harbour nights)

[Shelley on 14.02.06 at 15:56]

Yes Kristen, I have seen it.

[SmokingGun on 14.02.06 at 16:12]

So that's what Cupid mean't by mediocre over on the VD thread. These girls can't even get flashing down right. Them damn underwire bras....

[Bill Cook on 14.02.06 at 16:15]

What is disturbing is that the Prison officers club were able to bring in those Lollipop Girls for some Finger Lickin fun without a work permit when it seems we have plenty of home grown talent right here.

Things are perhaps a bit boring that end of the Island and leeway is extended to liven things up it seems !

[J Starling on 14.02.06 at 17:42]

I can hear the fundamentalists already preparing their sermons and a new crusade to 'restore the moral fibre of the community.' This is dissappointing but hardly suprising. With the low moral media content easily available, the hypocrisy of civil society (porn is banned at customs, but sold in the stores) and the increasing sexualisation of woman (just look at the fashion being hawked these days), not to mention a growing sense of alienation and commoditisation this was bound to happen. Just worried about the draconian over-reaction if this thing doesn't blow over pretty quick.

[Fly Girl on 15.02.06 at 10:01]

I know this will open another can of worms, but when it comes to entertainment in Bermuda, we suck. Everywhere else in the world there are strip clubs, casinos with girls dancing and the like. With Bermuda trying to look so "conservative", it is a detriment to entertainment. I am not against strip clubs, and obviously there are women here who won't mind stripping, so why can't we have places like that here.

[Shelley on 15.02.06 at 10:17]

Flygirl,
I agree with the entertainment aspect, yes Bermuda sucks, but female strippers? As a woman do you really want to see that here? And stripping brings a lot of crap with it, drugs, prostitution....

[smith on 15.02.06 at 10:38]

"And stripping brings a lot of crap with it, drugs, prostitution.... "

Oh, and we don't want 'that' in Bermuda.

[smith on 15.02.06 at 10:40]

". Even down in N'Orleans that stuff don't fly....."

And you've never heard of Mardi Gras?

[Shelley on 15.02.06 at 10:42]

Smith,
Didn't mean it like that, I know it's here, its just there is a culture with stripping that will exacerbate the existing problem.

[Fly Girl on 15.02.06 at 10:44]

Okay let me reiterate, I was thinking tasteful places, with regulations and the like in place. As a woman, personally I would not strip or expose myself in public, however there are other women who would do that. On the other hand, we can have male strippers as well. If someone likes to strip and wouldn't mind being paid for it, then let them do it. Even though I won't.

[silencedogood on 15.02.06 at 10:50]

I was thinking tasteful places, with regulations and the like in place.
Posted by Fly Girl on 15.02.06 at 10:44

I'm sure there are alot of girls who need the money to "pay for college". lol

[Shelley on 15.02.06 at 10:56]

Flygirl,
I understand the tasteful part and the draw it would be for tourists but I guess as a woman, it still sticks it my head that it is exploitation of our gender even if we buy into the concept that we own our own bodies. I hung out in Amsterdam a lot with my cousins during my University days and even though everything I saw was legal and in many instances tasteful, it was still disturbing - and I'll add here it was disturbing to me. A lot of university students were drawn into the "game" by the lure of big money with little thought to the consequences to their self esteem later down the road. I don't disagree with your argument per se, this is really more my personal opinion from my perspective as a woman.

[Bill Cook on 15.02.06 at 11:11]

Just because there are no strip clubs or for that matter gambling on Front Street does in no way mean that neither goes on in other areas.

Both have been around for a long time esp. since the proliferation of drug use and prostitution to pay for the drugs, but there was quite a bit even 40 plus yrs ago.

Nudity or topless beaches plus strip clubs and gambling were seen as counter productive by the conservative tourist board and of course the churches.

I found it interesting when I lived in Majorca that when ultra conservative Franco passed with all the restrictions ie being fined for kissing in public etc. that once the hitherto non topless beaches restrictions were lifted that the first to flash their Hooters were in fact the Spanish girls, amazing, probably a sense of freedom !

[Fly Girl on 15.02.06 at 11:26]

Shelley, I do understand. From my perspective, I feel that women should treasure their bodies as temples, however, I am not blind to the fact that some women choose to exploit themselves.

Bill, of course everyone knows that this stuff does happen in Bermuda, my opinion is why can't we be open about it? Why does it have to be so secretive?

[SmokingGun on 15.02.06 at 11:26]

Bill - the only legal way we're going to see Hooters in Bermuda is if we go down to the airport....

smith - I've only seen topless action at Mardi Gras. Was I on the wrong street?

[JJ on 15.02.06 at 11:36]

Tempest, tea cup........more important matters to worry about in Bermuda.

[Chris Broadhurst on 15.02.06 at 11:42]

....like eleven year olds having sex, and 4 out of every 10 births being an "outside child".

[Bill Cook on 15.02.06 at 11:48]

FLY,

Its not as simple as you may think because on an island as small as ours unlike London or that other island same size but bigger population Manhattan you live cheek by jowl ( no pun intended) with potential strippers etc.

We came close with the Greg Thompson Revue at SPH where I got to know a lot of the cast but it was not a financial success.

The strip clubs in Atlanta and in many major cities were controlled by " the mob " and constantly in trouble with the law with clients being ripped off by credit card fraud etc.

Sex is big business and attracts the criminal element in my opinion.

We are naive to think the same would not happen here but I have been to Myrtle Beach to the Doll House which was a fun place with great looking girls with terrific NATURAL bodies where the drinks were reasonable the girls clean cut and fun and the bar elegant and inviting, even had my photo with them posing for a nominal fee.

Now that format would work here perhaps, topless dancers etc all girls young and pleasant.

[smith on 15.02.06 at 12:04]

"smith - I've only seen topless action at Mardi Gras. Was I on the wrong street?"

Yes.

[SmokingGun on 15.02.06 at 12:14]

"terrific NATURAL bodies"...

Bill - just a quick question. How many of them were nurses with three kids trying to make their mortgage? I've never been able to figure out how they can look so great after three kids, or so young to have had them in the first place....

[Guilden M. Gilbert, Jr. on 15.02.06 at 12:32]

Shelley,

"exploitation of our gender even if we buy into the concept that we own our own bodies."

I have never understood this argument about exploitation where a right thinking, right minded adult does something consensual. How can a consensual act be exploitation? One person's actions does not define the entire sex, it simply defines what that one person is willing to do.

You say you were distrubed by what you saw in Amsterdam but as with most things you have a choice. If it disturbed you than simply stay away.

[Bill Cook on 15.02.06 at 12:34]

In Myrtle Beach they were pretty young say late teens or more likely early twenties.

I had a very close friend there a contractor and I had a condo on the beach so got to know some of these girls not for me ( too old )but my pal actually dated one of them somehow and most girls came from small towns and a few were going to college and some just did that for a pretty good living ( no heavy lifting etc. )

Not a single one was over say 25 it seemed and none looked like hookers, plus were very pleasant to talk to and had it seemed to me very similar bodies slim tight bodies not big silicone boobs more athletic with radiant skin and nice hair etc.

I would not be surprised if they got married early as they had such a great opportunity to show off as it were !

Must say I always had fun at that place as the atmosphere was no pressure and very open etc.

[Bill Cook on 15.02.06 at 12:36]

Sorry Smoke, my condo was on Myrtle Point the golf course not the beach.

[SmokingGun on 15.02.06 at 12:55]

Golf is to Myrtle Beach as Playboy is to "I only read it for the articles".... ;)

You'd be surprised at how many women will fly in for the week-end to make a bundle stripping and be back in the bio class first thing Monday working on a Phd. with no-one the wiser.

[Uncle Elvis on 15.02.06 at 13:08]

I have to go with Mr. Cook on this one.

Many years ago, I was fortunate enough to have a lifedrawing class with an openminded teacher.
For four weeks, we spent an hour every Tuesday and Thursday at a strip-club, drawing the ladies.
Because we didn't pester anyone and it was slow at 3 in the afternoon, we all got to know them quite well.
I say ladies because they were. Not a one of them was on drugs, not one was a hooker, not one wasn't in college. It was a job to them and a good - scratch that - GREAT paying job, one that they enjoyed, one that made them feel powerful. Many long talks after class with them and my fellow students at diners around town.

The problem I have with doing it here is that... well... based on my experience? The women in the video are nowhere NEAR classy enough to be strippers.

Now if we're talking sex-shows (which is different from stripping)...

[Shelley on 15.02.06 at 13:51]

Guilden,
To your second point, yes if it disturbed me I had the choice to stay away. I agree with that. But at the time, I was young and curious and was trying to understand this culture, this Holland, with its individual rights and freedoms, which was as much a part of what defined me as growing up in Bermuda did. As far as the exploitation, I guess I have internalized it this way. I feel economically empowered because of my intellect, I do not like to have to think of women having to sell their bodies or persona to make their way economically in this world. I perceive of men in this context as having the power or willingness to pay for something which I feel diminishes a persons's self worth. Again my opinion. I am sure this comes from being a female in a highly dominated male industry (automotive) where attendance at strip clubs was once a compulsory pastime for all managers.

[Full Fullish on 15.02.06 at 14:15]

Shelly -
" I hung out in Amsterdam a lot with my cousins during my University days and even though everything I saw was legal and in many instances tasteful, it was still disturbing "

Um, sorry dear, just what exactly did you expect to find in Amsterdam? It's like going to the beach and being surprised to see sand. It's like not likning what you see on TV, change the channel then, don't attempt to divert everyone else from what you consider tastefull or not, you don't have that right.

"Again my opinion. I am sure this comes from being a female in a highly dominated male industry (automotive) where attendance at strip clubs was once a compulsory pastime for all managers. "

Really?!? Damn where do I sign up? (grin) sorry I couldn't resist.

[Shelley on 15.02.06 at 14:22]

Full Fullish,

I expected to find the Rijks Museum - I was young and idealistic.

And to get into the boys club you have to be able to drive an RX-8 at 200 mph, while talking on your cellphone screaming at your dealers to buy more cars !

[Silencio on 15.02.06 at 14:59]

Everybody thinks it's no big deal until it is their daughter on camera showing off her snatch or getting gangbanged in the club's rest room.
Get a grip people - our young people should think more of themselves to spend their time doing things that actually will be of betterment and not detriment to their future. And no, I don't buy that 18=legal line either. I know plenty 20yr olds who thought they knew plenty, really didn't know shit from shinola and then lived to regret their actions. In a country this small, you don't want to be in some job interview being identified as the skank with her pants down on the Club Malabar video.

Pull your freakin' pants up, stupid!

[Tiger Bay on 15.02.06 at 15:04]

Amen!!!

[Fly Girl on 15.02.06 at 15:25]

Silencio, I think we all agree on that one. Young people don't think ahead to what can happen in the future, they live for today only.

[Andrew on 15.02.06 at 15:44]

Silencio,

I guess it depends on what the career aspirations of the skank are. Pants around the ankles is uniform in some industries.

[VideoSearcher on 15.02.06 at 15:46]

Anyone seen this video online yet? I can't make a judgement until I see it.

[Shelley on 15.02.06 at 15:55]

I guess I don't like the idea also that in so an affluent society as Bermuda that it would be deemed okay to strip in order to pay for something acceptable like college. I think we owe our young people more than that.

[andrew on 15.02.06 at 15:58]

I find it odd that a murder (Shaunde Jones) at the same club generated less public outrage that a little flash of snatch.